In this episode of The Third Seat, Zoe Shepherd shares what scaling The Social Shepherd to a 70‑strong agency demanded of her as a leader, and what she learned about the truth of burnout, culture dips, and identity shifts.
“If you fall into that path of, ‘I’ll just do it myself’, it’s not scalable, and you’re not doing the business any good.” - Zoe Shepherd
Today’s Third Seat episode is your survival guide to the “messy middle” of fast growth.
Rebecca welcomes Zoe Shepherd, CEO and Co-Founder of The Social Shepherd, a multi-award winning social media agency that has scaled from a two-person startup to a team of 70 with £6m+ turnover.
Zoe dives into the reality of being a “zombie” during high-growth periods, the cognitive weight of making decisions for dozens of people and the transition from doing “everything” to leading with intention.
In this conversation, Zoe and Rebecca discuss:
Whether you are battling the mental load of managing a large team, or navigating the identity crisis of stepping away from operational detail, Zoe’s journey offers a masterclass in resilient leadership.
00:00 - Meet Zoe Shepherd, CEO of The Social Shepherd
03:04 - From the Kitchen Table to 70 people: What’s changed?
7:30 - The Evolution of Work Ethic
23:35 - Being Co-Founders with Your Spouse
28:10 - Keeping Your Culture in a Fast‑Growth Company
31:25 - Evolving from Founder‑Doer to Intentional CEO
36:40 - Selling a Service with People as the Product
51:05 - Invaluable Advice for the Messy Middle

Zoe Shepherd
Co-Founder & CEO of The Social Shepherd Multi-Award Winner, including Forbes 30 Under 30 in 2025