In this episode of “Third Seat”, Swyft founder and CEO Keiran Hewkin joins Rebecca Morley to unpack what really happens when a business outgrows its founder’s old playbook. From wartime vs peacetime leadership to culture, ego and learning to let go, this episode is a candid look at the messy middle of scaling a high‑growth company.
In this episode of The Third Seat, Rebecca Morley sits down with Keiran Hewkin, founder of Swyft, a high-growth furniture brand that has scaled from a group of friends to a team of 60.
Keiran has navigated the intense journey from “inception point” through mad, chaotic growth, surviving market crashes and global supply chain shocks along the way.
He brings a refreshing and raw “anti-bullshit” perspective to what it actually takes to stay sane while building a juggernaut.
In this conversation, Keiran and Rebecca discuss:
If you are currently leading through that transition where you’re no longer small, but not yet stable, this conversation will provide the tools to help you let go of the details, without losing your grip on the vision.
[0:00] Keeping Sane and Solving Problems in Hypergrowth
[9:10] Culture, the Messy Middle and ‘Doing Too Much’
[19:20] Wartime vs Peacetime Leadership
[26::50] The Founder’s Identity Shift
[33:25] Rebel vs Process: Building Structure Whilst Maintaining Agility
[46:15] Crystallising Culture and Leading in the Messy Middle

Keiran Hewkin
Swyft Co-Founder and CEO